Posted by James Pepper on September 30, 1999 at 03:52:36 in 152.163.197.83 :
In Reply to: Re: That B-Deck Object Yet Again posted by Bruce Beveridge on September 30, 1999 at 00:17:32:
Dear Bruce:
The Librarians will not allow photocopying of the "Engineering", mainly because they are so fragile that if you bend a page it breaks off. This is why when I found the Aquitania's plans loose, they had to photocopy them to preserve them, since they are going to make at least one copy, they will make a copy for me. But this is a special case. They are kept in a vault, gloves the whole nine yards.
I know I've seen this detail before in the aft well deck of the Britannic. Also this may be in Scientific American, they followed the building of these ships, and although not as detailed in written descriptions as The Engineer or Engineering, you might find a similar photograph. You are more likely to find a turn of the century Scientific American than the Engineer or Engineering. And it is on microfilm. SMU has the originals.
Engineering has photos of the launch of Olympic that I have not seen before, they are not that much different from the known photographs.
This is definitely a Belfast photograph. I remember posting a reference to a similar picture which had the bollards but no anchor chains, it may have been the same photograph, certainly it was at about the same time and place. I remember finding it in a magazine, possibly Scientific American. I will look for it. It is in the launch issue of the Olympic in 1910.
We found other issues of The Shipbuilder, including the Lusitania in SMU's archives. The Engineer or Engineering published a complete photographic listing of all White Star ships, I think it was part of the launch issue but there was a special issue that year or 1911. It includes a picture of the Oceanic's bridge taken from the starboard side. The door to the bridge had no window.
Also it was made very clear that the refrigerated water (cooling water, cooling wine and ice cold beer) was a "trademark" of the White Star Line. That, refrigeration was an extremely important feature of all "current" White Star ships.
If I find the photograph elsewhere I will notify you.
Sincerely,
James Pepper